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Author Topic: Please end the 6,400 glyph limit  (Read 6994 times)
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« on: 2008-08-14, 09:35:19 »

The limit of 6,400 glyphs makes it impossible to do a comprehensive non-Asian font. Everson Mono, for instance, has about 6,100 glyphs in it right now, and while I'd like to add more I can't. Can this arbitrary cap be removed?

Many thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: 2008-09-01, 18:58:54 »

I'd love to have an answer to this question.
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« Reply #2 on: 2008-09-03, 11:29:37 »

This is a marketing question. Removing the limit will stop the AFS project.
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« Reply #3 on: 2008-09-03, 13:18:00 »

That doesn't help me very much. I dislike the "Asian Font Studio project" in the same way that I disliked the old Quark XPress marketing model where you had to pay extra to use more than one language (the Passport edition).

I have nothing against Asian fonts, but they are Not My Area. I do however have expertise in a wide variety of other scripts... but am limited by FontLab Studio quite arbitrarily.

My font Everson Mono, for instance, cannot grow beyond its current size. So I ask you... please end the 6,400 glyph limit.
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« Reply #4 on: 2010-06-17, 07:10:52 »

Now that Fontographer can handle 32,000 glyphs, and now that it's advertised that users can open and edit .vfb files with Fog and then open them again with FontLab, it's time to ask again....

Please post a FontLab Studio 5.0.5 patch that removes the 6,400 glyph limit.
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« Reply #5 on: 2010-06-19, 06:57:00 »

Especially because TypeTool is able to open and to generate fonts with up to 65,000 glyphs.
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« Reply #6 on: 2010-06-21, 17:44:23 »

IIRC, the end of the limitation (and thusly, the end of AFS), was announced for FLS6 at robothon last year.
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« Reply #7 on: 2010-06-22, 04:32:06 »

It might take two years for FLS6 to be released. As far as I know it is not yet in beta-testing. (I hope to test it.)

I don't want to wait for FLS6 to be released. My large Unicode font Everson Mono is floating in the doldrums! I needed this functionality last year or the year before.

I reiterate my request that FontLab post a FontLab Studio 5.0.5 patch that removes the 6,400 glyph limit. I have a friend who hacked the Windows version of FLS5 to remove the limit. He was unable to do so to the Mac version. Out of respect for our colleagues in FontLab, I'm not putting anyone in contact with my friend... but it was possible to remove the limit. A patch could deliver this one element of functionality long in advance of the other improvements to FLS6.
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« Reply #8 on: 2010-06-22, 05:25:48 »

Unbelievable, Evertype! I really really really hate synthetic limits! I second, third and fourth your request!
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« Reply #9 on: 2010-06-22, 14:10:20 »

My friend has told me how it is done. He opened the .exe with a hex editor and made one change 21 times. This changed an upper limit definition to a much higher limit.

Unfortunately for me, he says this does not work on the Mac, because the .app's checksum does not allow him to run the .app after making the change.

But this is why I am calling for a single simple patch.
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« Reply #10 on: 2010-06-22, 14:50:08 »

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He opened the .exe with a hex editor and made one change 21 times...


He missed two Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: 2010-06-22, 15:34:24 »

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My friend has told me how it is done. He opened the .exe with a hex editor and made one change 21 times.

Wow, that’s a famous hacking tutorial. Open it in a hexeditor and make a change 21 times. Does this work with Fontographer, too? Or do you have to make a change 10.5 times only, because it already supports 32,000 glyphs?
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« Reply #12 on: 2010-06-22, 16:56:17 »

Evidently it is 23 times.

My friend is not kidding.
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« Reply #13 on: 2010-06-25, 05:37:51 »

Ted? Adam?
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« Reply #14 on: 2010-07-04, 12:36:59 »

Adam? Ted?
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