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« on: 2010-02-02, 22:03:55 »

NEWBIE ALERT! I need a little help. I've made this little grunge font family. TTF format only (trying to keep it simple) The problem I'm having is I can't seem to get it to install as a family on windows. Installs fine on the mac but on Windows it will only recognize one style at a time. I've looked in several places on the net but the info seems confusing for a newbie.

Can anyone help?
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« Reply #1 on: 2010-02-03, 08:42:59 »

Fonts in one family should have the same family name. What was your naming scheme? FamilyName, StyleName, PSFontName, FullName, MenuName?
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« Reply #2 on: 2010-02-03, 11:12:38 »

In windows7, style names will be translated "localized" and it's more restrictiv as before then it comes to the font window (font management).
In a trail and error process I came up with the following style name shame what don't break the font family group and are translated correctly into German. (this grouping has nothing to do with the traditional 4 style rule, its just for comfort)

Name Thin
Name Light
Name Regular
Name Book
Name Medium
Name Bold
Name Extra Bold
Name Black
Name Ultra Black

Style names like Heavy, Ultra, Extra (one, two, three - or something else) will be displayed as single font families and are wrongly translated. But its not an error - the fonts will work like before. Its a cosmetical thing. I tryed to ask MS typograpphy for a specification, but nothing was responded.

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« Reply #3 on: 2010-02-03, 12:50:48 »

Alex - I did screen captures so that you can see the settings for all three fonts in the family.
http://www.photoshopisland.com/themes/ninesixtyrobots/images/blog/font-settings-2-3-10.jpg

I'm at a complete loss at where I've gone wrong.
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« Reply #4 on: 2010-02-03, 15:41:39 »

Only for testing purpose only, try the to name your fonts:

Iron Grunge Regular
Iron Grunge Medium
Iron Grunge Bold

I'm sure you will see the "Iron Grunge" family under Windows 7 font manager. Other style names = single fonts will displayed.

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« Reply #5 on: 2010-02-03, 16:30:05 »

astype - no luck. I'm looking in Notepad. Does not pad just not support fonts with more than a single style?
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« Reply #6 on: 2010-02-03, 16:40:14 »

You're almost done: copy your "Full Name" to the "Family Name" field and also to the "Menu Name" field and set the "Style name" to Regular.
then all 3 show up in Windows, and act as family in Adobe apps.
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« Reply #7 on: 2010-02-03, 19:25:02 »

Luc[as] - the fonts are showing up but not as families.
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« Reply #8 on: 2010-02-04, 09:26:28 »

You wrote earlier that only one at a time shows up.
Your 3 fonts will show up as a family in Adobe apps, but not in Windows apps, because they are no family!
You are supposed to see 3 items in the menu.
A family would be:
Iron Grunge (Regular)
Iron Grunge (Italic) with style and style bit Italic
Iron Grunge (Bold) with style and style bit Bold
but that does not apply to your 3 fonts.
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« Reply #9 on: 2010-02-20, 13:48:10 »

Fonts in one family should have the same family name.

That is not always true. If you have Regular, Semibold, Bold and Extrabold, 2 of these fonts will have to get a different family name. But all 4 can have the same OT Family name.
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