Fonts in WordArt

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Posted by: Chevron75
         

Is there anyway to get the embedded fonts to work in the WordArt objects?

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Posted by: mjan
         
yes

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Posted by: Chevron75
         

How? Several MVP's have since told me that WordArt will only use fonts that are installed. My embedded fonts work for everything else on the web page BUT WordArt.

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Posted by: mjan
         

You asked if wordart can contain embedded fonts, which I believe they can (in a word document). It's not possible in web pages though. You may want to consider using SVG or Flash instead (I would use SVG and Adobe's plugin, which support their own non-EOT embedded fonts).

 

Details (skip if you don't care):

 

Embedded objects in IE are not automatically able to use EOT fonts found in web pages. This is the case for all embedded objects, such as Flash, PDF, Word, WordArt, JavaBean, and other ActivaX controls.

 

There are are at least three issues:

1 - IE creates a dynamic font name for EOT fonts, in order to allow for an EOT font to be used even if there already is a system font with the same name. If your EOT is called "Foobar", then it may be reanmed as "#237868726234" when it is used in the web page. An embedded object would thus need to use the numeric name and not the original name (it can use the number name by using some clever DOM/DHTML coding). Note also that the name changes each time the EOT is used.

 

2 - Embedded fonts are not automatically available to all running applications. An application needs to explicitly specify that it wants to use an embedded font, as oppossed to a system font.

 

3 - Embedded fonts can only be used by the process that loaded them. Embedded objects running in a separate process (e.g. embedded word) would thus not be able to use an EOT even if it handled issue 1 and 2 above.

 

Regards,

- Michael

 

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Posted by: Chevron75
         

Thanks so much for the detailed explanation; that's exactly what I was looking for. I have since converted the WordArt on my web pages to gifs to get around the issue. What is SVG? Is it supported by all browsers?

 

Thanks Again!!

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Posted by: dreamwrkr
         

 

Hi-

 

I have been using WEFT successfully for some time now at www.studioforthehealingarts.org
however, I have encountered an odd phenomenon. The system works fine on MS Explorer
but only works occasionally on Mozilla 5.0 and Netscape 7.2 . Can you give me
any suggestions on what I can do to fix this problem?

 

David

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Posted by: mjan
         

Chevron, If you want animated text (text that moves) or text that you can interact with  then you want to use SVG or Flash. Both formats does the same thing, with the difference that Flash is a format from Macromedia while SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) is an open standard (http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/). Some browsers include native SVG support (e.g. Opera and a special version of Firefox/Mozilla). My guess is that IE will never support SVG though. However, there is a plugin from Adobe that provides support for SVG in most browsers, including IE. I would recommend doing some googling for SVG if you would like to know more about it.

 

David, your question is unrelated to Wordart. Please don't re-use existing threads like this. To quickly answer your question -- WEFT does not support Mozilla (it never has and never will). You need to use a GlyphGate web server to support browsers beside IE. Web hosting at Em2 Solutions AB is something like $20 USD, and will let you support Safari as well as Firefox/Mozilla/Netscape on Windows, Macintosh, Linux and Solaris. More info at http://www.glyphgate.com/info/ordering.htm

 

Regards,

- Michael

 

 

 

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Posted by: Chevron75
         

Thank you for the explanation. It was very helpful.

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