Fonts on Vista?

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Posted by: mattr70
         
After I download and extract the SBL Hebrew font and keyboard I am unable to install the keyboard. Is there an incompatibility issue with Vista?

Thanks,
matt
         

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Posted by: John Hudson
         
Yes, there is. I'm looking into it now. There is an update to the MSKLC program that I use to create the keyboard drivers, but I want to make sure I understand the issue before attempting a fix.

I'll also take this opportunity to add input support for the new 'holam haser for vav' character to the layout.

I'm very busy at the moment, so please remind me if I have not got a new keyboard available by next Monday.
         

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Posted by: John Hudson
         
PS. Just to clarify: there is only a problem with the keyboard drivers, not with the font itself.
         

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Posted by: John Hudson
         
A possible workaround for installing the current keyboard drivers on Vista is provided here:

http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2006/06/27/648618.aspx

This may work for you.
         

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Posted by: John Hudson
         
Matt, I've uploaded new keyboard drivers with installers and manuals to the document section of the SBL font user community:

http://groups.msn.com/SBLFonts/documents.msnw

These should install correctly under Windows Vista. If you could confirm this, that would be appreciated.
         

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Posted by: twuandy
         
Dear John,
I'm not sure what you're asking us to do?  1) I don't have Vista.  2) I'm
happy with the font (the one you renamed so as not to interfere with
BibleWorks) and driver as is.
Andrew

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Posted by: John Hudson
         
That's fine, Andy. My message was in response to Matt's earlier report that the existing Hebrew keyboard driver would not install under Vista.

If the old driver does everything that you need, and it works in your system, you don't need to change. Note, however, that the old driver does not support input for the new U+05BA HOLAM HASER FOR VAV character, supported in SBL Hebrew 1.5. This character is necessary *if* you want to make an encoding and visual distinction between holam male and vav haluma.
         

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Posted by: twuandy
         
Dear John,
I'm not sure what you mean by "cholem male" and "vav haluma", nor by "visual
distinction".
Andy

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Posted by: John Hudson
         
Holam male (cholem male) is the vowel O represented by the letter vav with a dot above. Vav haluma is the combination of vav plus holam, VO. Since these both consist of vav with a dot above, they are easily confuseable, and until Unicode 5.0 there was no way to distinguish them in the text encoding, and ergo no way to distinguish them visually. After much discussion on the subject, the Unicode Technical Committee accepted encoding of a new character, U+05BA HOLAM HASER FOR VAV, so that the dots above vav can be distinguished.

Since holam male is much more common than vav haluma, and the encoding vav + holam was already in use for this, the new character is used to represent vav haluma. So

Vav + holam (U+05B9) = holam male = O
vav + holam haser for vav (U+059A) = vav haluma = VO

The typical visual distinction, implemented in the SBL Hebrew font, is that the dot in holam male is positioned over the vertical stem of the vav, i.e. to the right, while the dot in vav haluma is positioned over the left side of the letter.

The distinction is explained in more detail on page 16 of the manual for version 1.5 of the SBL Hebrew font, which can be downloaded here:

http://groups.msn.com/SBLFonts/documents.msnw?fc_p=%2FFonts&fc;_a=0

A good example of the distinction between holam male and vav haluma is found in two consecutive words in Genesis 4:13×¥

         

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