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« on: 2008-07-20, 01:38:00 »

Posted by: carole_ann_51
         
For the first time, I got WEFT to work with my web site (www.carolesvirtualtvscrapbook.com). But the problem is, the font only seems to be visible with the Internet Explorer browser. From the tutorial(s) I printed out, there seems to be something else to use--TrueDoc--so it will work in other browsers as well. But that doesn't seem to be available anymore.  Is there something else available so embedded fonts can be seen with all browsers? (I normally use Netscape's new Flock browser and I am able to view all different fonts that I don't have on my computer, so there must be some way to do it.)  And if there is, do you use both or one or the other?
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« Reply #1 on: 2008-07-20, 22:59:00 »

Posted by: mindypin
         

Carole,



What a nice website you are building!  Unfortunately, embedded fonts
can only be viewed with Internet Explorer.  People using Firefox, Opera
or other browsers will not be able to see the embedded fonts.  There is
a plug-in available for Firefox called PDMS Weft plug-in,
but you will have to be sure to paste the code onto your web pages so
the visitor can download and install the plug-in if they choose.  I
really wish someone would develop some sort of embedding tool that
would work in all browsers, but the best thing available at this time
is Weft.



Good luck!



http://fineartbymary.com



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« Reply #2 on: 2008-07-21, 12:17:00 »

Posted by: carole_ann_51
         
Hi,
 
         Thank you for the nice words about my web site.  After I posted my question, I started searching just for the heck of it and came across something called Font Fusion (http://www.bitstream.com/font_rendering/products/font_fusion/index.html) Have you ever heard of that or do you know anything about it?
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« Reply #3 on: 2008-07-21, 12:23:00 »

Posted by: carole_ann_51
         
And just now I found this: http://www.glyphgate.com/info/index.html
Do you or anybody else know anything about that?
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« Reply #4 on: 2008-07-21, 04:54:00 »

Posted by: mindypin
         
Font Fusion is not a font embedding program.  It's primarily intended to create fonts for mobile phones and such, from what I understand.


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« Reply #5 on: 2008-10-07, 22:52:00 »

Posted by: fishtail1776
         
What a bummer really. That is my problem right now-that and I am looking for an unconventional solution for helping me establish my freelance writing brand.
 
I would like my slogan "A Whole New World of Writing" to be in some type of cursive font. I am very much disappointed at how limited I am regarding this, as most of the cursive fonts are only compatible with IE.
 
I realize it could be a conflict of interest for Microsoft to make ones that are cross-compatible. However, it would be nice to have a least a few cross-compatible cursive fonts that look good in nearly every browser regardless of operating system.

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« Reply #6 on: 2008-10-08, 18:54:00 »

Posted by: kolshire
         
Unfortunately, there are two problems with font embedding: tradionally, in order to see a font in an application, the font has to be installed on the operating system, and the lack of browsers to support what are called 'dynamic fonts.'  This support must be built into the browser, and there must also be a way to construct these dynamic fonts into special packages that the browser can download and execute, to display the fonts.
 
There was a time when both netscape and IE supported dynamic fonts, WEFT EOT for IE and TrueDoc for netscape.  the difference was that support for EOT's was built into IE, but TrueDoc was always a plug-in that had to be installed.  As you might guess from some of the other questions in this group, the technology is not perfect, and there are hurdles to wrapping up very sphisticated fonts into a useable package, while keeping the overall filesize to a minimum.
 
Nestscape no longer offers support for dynamic fonts, and firefox has never supported it.  To my knowledge, IE is the only one that still does, thanks in part to the large group of users like you, who keep interest in the technology high.
 
GlyphGate is a server-based solution for the dynamic fonts problem.  Essentially, it converts fonts into what are called 'glyphs.'  You can essentially think of them as snapshots of the original font characters.  GlyphGate translates the characters into a browser-readable format, and then sends it to the browser.
 
So, sad to say, that at this time, IE is still your only real outlet for displaying the font you want people to see.

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« Reply #7 on: 2009-01-18, 15:01:00 »

Posted by: Majid
         
Glyphgate did not take off either. Moreover, you need to have your own server to effectively deploy it and then usually it would prompt the user to install a plugin.

However, the good news is that for Firefox, there is an add-on which adds an ie tab using which pages which need IE can be viewed without any problem. It is an excellent solution and can be downloaded from here

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419

I have a website where I use WEFT (www.bhurgri.com) and if you access it with any browser other than IE, it gives the incompatibility message and a link for users of Firefox to download and install this nifty solution. I have been using it and now I can view my website in Firefox flawlessly.

Nevertheless it is a user end solution, but excellent at that.

Abdul-Majid Bhurgri
http://www.bhurgri.com
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