Latin script cursive font with calt does not work in Word 2003

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Posted by: Joanhamster2
         

Does anyone know if a latin script cursive font with calts will work in Vista and Microsoft Office 2007 (Word) as it does in Adobe InDesign ? 

Thank you

Joan

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Posted by: Neumann777
         
Well, normally Adobe products are more picky than Microsoft on font specs. When a font runs in Indesign, I would expect it to work in Office.

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Posted by: John Hudson
         
Good question. It will work with the version of Uniscribe that Vista and Office 12 use -- so, for instance, it will work in Notepad via the system Uniscribe DLL (as it does already in WinXP SP2) -- but that doesn't mean that Office will access that support. Office is notoriously limited in its typographic support. It is kind of ironic: on the one hand you have Word, which has lots of complex document formatting capabilities but which still handles text pretty much like a plain text editor, and on the other hand you have a nominal plain text editor like Notepad, which now produces richer typography than Word.

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Posted by: Joanhamster2
         

To Neumann777 and John,

 

Thank you for your answer.

About Notepad : punctuation marks do not function as context where they do in InDesign.

 

Regards,

joan

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Posted by: SergeyM
         
Notepad in Windows Vista should work as you expect. Before, all punctuation characters itemized into runs separate from other characters.

Thanks,
Sergey

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Posted by: indicman
         
Just curious. What is a calt?

Only Adobe products support feature for Simple scripts (code name for Unicode Basic Latin and Latin-1 Extension blocks). Microsoft has intentionally turned off even the most basic feature of Latin, which are ligatures such as f+l and f+i.

It is believed to be a business decision. The support that Notepad has for Latin is restricted to Basic Latin (ASCII) not Latin-1 extension.

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Posted by: Joanhamster2
         

Indicman,

 

I have found the following in Microsoft Typography - Arabic
OpenType Specifications - Features. I hope that the reproduction of this extract
is allowed.

 

Regards,

joanhamster2

 

Connection forms

Feature Tag: "calt" (for,
if correct, "contextual alternates")

In specified situations, replaces default glyphs with alternate forms that provide better joining behavior. Used
in script typefaces which are designed to have some
or all of their glyphs join. The 'calt' table specifies the context in which each substitution occurs, and maps one or
more default glyphs to replacement glyphs (GSUB lookup type 6).

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Posted by: indicman
         
Thank you Joan,

You seem to know so much about the lookup types etc.

I am making an orthographic font (Smart Font) for Pali, which is really mostly Sinhala glyph shapes. It works perfectly, bringing authentic ancient script into life when displaying romanized Pali. (Not the 50-year-old one by the Pali Text Society  -- my own version).

However, the ligatures (combined characters) Pali (and Sanskrit) need are so numerous that it is very tedious to draw ligature groups. So far I have 2300 glyphs managed by about 70 tables.

I am looking to find if there are other features that are truly allowed in Notepad (sigh) for Simple scripts other than

JC

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Posted by: Joanhamster2
         

Dear John

 

A latin cursive font with calts functions works in OpenOffice word processor as it does in Notepad provided that you introduce a diacritic U+03.. within the text.
I have designed an empty diacritic character that I call with a key from a keyboard dedicated to this cursive font.

 

Regards,

Joan

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