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« on: 2008-08-02, 06:13:00 »

Posted by: Niaziniazi2
         
Respected Sir,

I've posted this 8 days ago, but no body replies, I am again posting this.

I am developing a Quranic Font. Here in the Quranic Script there are two shapes of Dammatan, two of Fathatan and two of kasratan. But in unicode there are only one position for these shapes.
I need two shapes for fathatan, dammatan and kasratan.
I try to achieve the second option, I make three shapes for them and put them in seperate glyph.
I tried to achieve this glyph or shape using ccmp feature, NOT WORKED, I tried to use this by mkmk, NOT WORKED, I tried through Cursive attachment, NOT WORKED, I tried some more logics but failed.
Some Aeraab's (diacritics) are working on each other but I need when I press fatha fatha it replaces my required glyph.

Can I achieve this. I am trying to do this in MS Word now.

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: 2008-08-07, 02:55:00 »

Posted by: MeorRidzuan
         
Hi,
What project are you working on?

Anyway, you may want to look at my font at http://arabicfonts.wikispaces.com/. I would say the font implemented 100% of the Madinah mushaf, but of course not 100% unicode compliant.
We have discuss this issues at length at arabeyes long time ago. My view on this is, as long as Unicode does not define it (either by adding new character or additional definition), we will never have a uniform implementation of the glyph.

I have tried 3 different approach to the problem:
1. Define fatha+fatha to be the second type of fathatan. The problem with this is, MS define this sequence as illegal, so it won't work in MS platform. ( I don't remember, but it might work on pango based apps).
2. Create a lookup using CALT (contextual alternatives), which is in my opinion, the most correct approach. I did succeed to some extend, but the problem is, I just can't imagine to create the necessary lookup to make it exactly the same as the print edition. You may need to create more than 50 lookup just for this particular glyph (for a simple rule within a word, it easy, but it becomes more complicated when you need to consider multiple words where you need to take space into consideration)
3. Adding a modifier to the text, which eventually what is being implemented in the font above. The approach I use is, for fathatan and kasratan, I add small meem below. For dammatan, I add small meem above. This will not create a confusion because the above sequence does not exist anywhere, yet it does not break in Uniscribe implementation. Once The issues are settled, I can replace the above sequence with the correct character.

Hope this help.
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« Reply #2 on: 2008-08-16, 12:54:00 »

Posted by: Aref3
         
wow, its an honour to write to u meorridzuan,
our noorehidayat community build a whole new qurani indo-pak font, which is based on ur noble work on me-quran font. I too did some work on pakdatas saleem font. There they have used additional glyphs to solve this problem. How ever in indo-pak script we may rarely use two different kasratan and dammatans!

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« Reply #3 on: 2008-08-18, 01:30:00 »

Posted by: MeorRidzuan
         
I have not been active in font development for quite some times (few years maybe). Is it possible for me to get the font that you developed? What's the relationship with pakdatas saleem font? I've downloaded the pakdatas font, and it does looks nice. What I'm looking for now is a complete Quran text that can goes with it (the IndoPak style, that is).
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« Reply #4 on: 2008-08-18, 10:36:00 »

Posted by: AzizMostafa1
         
http://typophile.com/node/48495
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« Reply #5 on: 2008-08-25, 21:48:00 »

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« Reply #6 on: 2008-08-25, 21:51:00 »

Posted by: Aref3
         
 
MeorRidzuan:
Aoa,
U can get complete quranepaks text from this website:
 
 
Luckely, they have used your me-quran font and converted into noorehidayat font for indo-pak support
 
Unfortunately, whole qurane pak text is not available for pakdatas saleem font....
 
waslaam
aif

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